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Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Peter Tessier: Jets have options for Draft moves
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:48 PM ET
Rexy still fighting his battle on Twitter.....lol.

I like Petan as a player as much as most of us do and wished him a better fate. He has talent but he has also been given a chance on the top two lines of the Jets and on the PP over the last few years. It hasn't just been with Thor. Thats fake news. He just has not produced or meshed with anyone and his size also hurts him. There is no way he is now a top 6 player ( top two lines) for the Jets. Others like Connor and Roslovic have surpassed him. I do agree its time to move him. Maybe there just is not the interest everyone thinks there is. Petan has also admitted himself recently that he needed to get better, so you can't blame Maurice at all. He made the right choice.

He might be worth a 3rd to the right team if there even is any interest at all. Petan is not exactly known for his speed so in the new NHL he doesn't fit the model.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
I dont think you can call less than 10 games on the top two lines as a chance?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:08 PM ET
I like your thinking. Those are the kind of guys I would target.

I got a 4th and a Gudas for you.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
I agree with Tony. Petan has not been given a fair shot. I think if Perreault is traded, Petan can easily do what Perreault could at a discounted price. Also may open the door to make a big move like acquiring EK65.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
I agree with Tony. Petan has not been given a fair shot. I think if Perreault is traded, Petan can easily do what Perreault could at a discounted price. Also may open the door to make a big move like acquiring EK65.
- TheUltimateJet


Perreault huh...let's talk.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 21 @ 5:52 PM ET
Perreault huh...let's talk.
- Glak18


I would do the Frolik deal with you (when he was traded from the Blackhawks to Jets).

To PHI: Mathieu Perreault

To WPG: 2018 2nd round pick, 2018 3rd round pick
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:54 PM ET
I would do the Frolik deal with you (when he was traded from the Blackhawks to Jets).

To PHI: Mathieu Perreault

To WPG: 2018 2nd round pick, 2018 3rd round pick

- TheUltimateJet


That’s horrendous. You’re trading a top line forward on a huge value deal for not a first rounder pick and a prospect
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:54 PM ET
I would do the Frolik deal with you (when he was traded from the Blackhawks to Jets).

To PHI: Mathieu Perreault

To WPG: 2018 2nd round pick, 2018 3rd round pick

- TheUltimateJet


Thinking...no 3rd round this year though.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:56 PM ET
That’s horrendous. You’re trading a top line forward on a huge value deal for not a first rounder pick and a prospect
- Rexypoo


If the talk starts with 2018 #14 or #19, I say good day and let's grab some lunch sometime.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
That’s horrendous. You’re trading a top line forward on a huge value deal for not a first rounder pick and a prospect
- Rexypoo


For a forward that is injured at least 20 games a year and was practically invisible in the playoffs. Frolik netted the Blackhawks for the exact package I would trade Perrault away for.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 21 @ 7:54 PM ET
Thinking...no 3rd round this year though.
- Glak18


Okay then 2019 2nd rounder plus this years 2nd rounder would suffice.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:00 PM ET
I don't think you can call less than 10 games on the top two lines as a chance?
- Ross77


Petan played 95 NHL games including 3/4 of the 2016-17 NHL season. He had chances on all the lines and lots of PP time. Seriously, how much more chance could the Jets possibly afford to give him? He was given every opportunity.

There are plenty of examples of a slick passing high scoring prodigy in junior that never panned out. Gilbert Brule, Daniel Tkaczuk, Pavel Brendl, etc.

The one positive factor that I can say about Petan is that he is working extremely hard to work on the aspects of his game that he knows he needs to improve on. Maybe he will turn out OK by getting there through pure determination. I personally hope so but I am also a realist that doesn't see him displacing anyone on the Jets.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:04 PM ET
Okay then 2019 2nd rounder plus this years 2nd rounder would suffice.
- TheUltimateJet


I would do the Frolik deal with you (when he was traded from the Blackhawks to Jets).

To PHI: Mathieu Perreault

To WPG: 2018 2nd round pick, 2019 2nd round pick

- TheUltimateJet



I went back and forth, but I think I would personally do it. I'm sure many Flyer fans would say no, but it's good for both teams. Cap space and picks for Winnipeg and a 3C to slot in for a reasonable term and price.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
I agree with Tony. Petan has not been given a fair shot. I think if Perreault is traded, Petan can easily do what Perreault could at a discounted price. Also may open the door to make a big move like acquiring EK65. []

First - OTT is NOT trading EK to an Eastern Conf. team (most likely LV)

second - we'll take Petan for a 2019 4th (STL) - and he'll prosper !!

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 21 @ 9:23 PM ET
Petan played 95 NHL games including 3/4 of the 2016-17 NHL season. He had chances on all the lines and lots of PP time. Seriously, how much more chance could the Jets possibly afford to give him? He was given every opportunity.

There are plenty of examples of a slick passing high scoring prodigy in junior that never panned out. Gilbert Brule, Daniel Tkaczuk, Pavel Brendl, etc.

The one positive factor that I can say about Petan is that he is working extremely hard to work on the aspects of his game that he knows he needs to improve on. Maybe he will turn out OK by getting there through pure determination. I personally hope so but I am also a realist that doesn't see him displacing anyone on the Jets.

- jetsnation


in reality though he has only played about 5 games with top 6 talent, the rest of those games were probably less than 6 min per game on the 4th line. I actually really liked him on the pp, even though it was very limited, by no way is he worse on the pp then our second pp unit.

its ok if you dont like him but he has not been given a chance like others here.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 21 @ 11:22 PM ET
in reality though he has only played about 5 games with top 6 talent, the rest of those games were probably less than 6 min per game on the 4th line. I actually really liked him on the pp, even though it was very limited, by no way is he worse on the pp then our second pp unit.

its ok if you dont like him but he has not been given a chance like others here.

- Ross77


I beg to differ on this Ross. Petan played at least 20 games which were over 14 minutes a game. A decent chunk of those he was in the 16-20 minutes time window. So just under 1/4 of all the games he played. Those are first and second line minutes plus some PP time. Like I said, he was given a fair shake to see what he could do.

Petan would do very well on the larger European ice surface where he has more space to work his magic. He may just end up there in a few more years.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 22 @ 9:55 AM ET
For a forward that is injured at least 20 games a year and was practically invisible in the playoffs. Frolik netted the Blackhawks for the exact package I would trade Perrault away for.
- TheUltimateJet


Perreault is miles better than Frolik. AND cheaper. He may be injured 20~ games per season, he’s still a top ranked GAR forward. That takes both icetime and games played into account. He might be #1 ranked with an 82 game season.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 22 @ 10:00 AM ET
Vegas did very well at acquiring undervalued assets. So, please trade Petan and Dano to Vegas so we can move away from this never ending Petan / Dano got screwed in Wpg narrative. Its so tiring to continually read and re read this same narrative.

Pete most of your posts are very good. But like a preacher that has to continually deliver a new message every Sunday morning, sometimes its hard to come up with a new topic for the masses week in and week out. This is an old narrative with a stale message so I hope Chevy can free Petan and Dano and ship them to Vegas where they will be on the # 1 line in short order.

Pete, I hope this Saturday can give you some new topics to write about instead of this never ending stale narrative.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
Vegas did very well at acquiring undervalued assets. So, please trade Petan and Dano to Vegas so we can move away from this never ending Petan / Dano got screwed in Wpg narrative. Its so tiring to continually read and re read this same narrative.

Pete most of your posts are very good. But like a preacher that has to continually deliver a new message every Sunday morning, sometimes its hard to come up with a new topic for the masses week in and week out. This is an old narrative with a stale message so I hope Chevy can free Petan and Dano and ship them to Vegas where they will be on the # 1 line in short order.

Pete, I hope this Saturday can give you some new topics to write about instead of this never ending stale narrative.

- CharlieDog


You were literally provided with evidence showing how underused they have been here, and that they are in fact NHL players. It’s not a tired, dead narrative, it’s an increasingly concerning one of a GM allowing his coach to run valuable young players into the ground. He cant trade them now that their value on the market is gone, and he doesn’t have the balls to force Maurice’s hand
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
Petan got the opportunities that he earned. Lacks grit and his speed is good but not great.
There is no comparing Petan to Perreault. Perreault is not a soft player.
I just don't see Petan being a top 6 or top 9 for any team in the league.
I wish it was different for him, but it just isn't.


Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 22 @ 11:18 AM ET
Petan got the opportunities that he earned. Lacks grit and his speed is good but not great.
There is no comparing Petan to Perreault. Perreault is not a soft player.
I just don't see Petan being a top 6 or top 9 for any team in the league.
I wish it was different for him, but it just isn't.

- bennythehat


He says, providing zero evidence
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
Vegas did very well at acquiring undervalued assets. So, please trade Petan and Dano to Vegas so we can move away from this never ending Petan / Dano got screwed in Wpg narrative. Its so tiring to continually read and re read this same narrative.

Pete most of your posts are very good. But like a preacher that has to continually deliver a new message every Sunday morning, sometimes its hard to come up with a new topic for the masses week in and week out. This is an old narrative with a stale message so I hope Chevy can free Petan and Dano and ship them to Vegas where they will be on the # 1 line in short order.

Pete, I hope this Saturday can give you some new topics to write about instead of this never ending stale narrative.

- CharlieDog


Charliedog, normally I agree with you. I think coaching plays a major role in how players develop. From all reports it appears that Petan has put in lots of work to improve his game. I do not believe that he ever got a fair shake with Maurice.

If compared to Kyle Connor, Petan got a raw deal. Last year out of training camp, Connor was not good enough to make the Jets, then all of a sudden an injury to Perreault and then Connor comes on the team on the first line. How does that make sense? Petan has been told he needs to work his way up the line-up, which again makes no sense. I think Maurice has more of a personality issue with Petan than anything else.

Dano from my perspective is another baffling case. I could go on more about him. Again I think its differing personalities that prevent him from getting into the line-up.

Just some Ultimate thoughts...
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
He says, providing zero evidence
- Rexypoo



What the F do you think this is - CSI Winnipeg ?

2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
You were literally provided with evidence showing how underused they have been here, and that they are in fact NHL players. It’s not a tired, dead narrative, it’s an increasingly concerning one of a GM allowing his coach to run valuable young players into the ground. He cant trade them now that their value on the market is gone, and he doesn’t have the balls to force Maurice’s hand
- Rexypoo


Yawn~!
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